“那是由一些这个领域非常资力深研究者参加的小型会议，”他回忆说，“当他们听到我，一个小小研究生，说出这个松饼的笑话，真的是一片让人非常不舒服的安静。

• “It was a small conference attended by some of the most senior researchers in the field,” he recalls. “When they heard me, a lowly graduate student, tell the muffin joke, there was a really uncomfortable silence.